04-09-'10 Calum J @ Infexious 3rd Birthday

wat a fuckin night. was the best infexious for a long long time. love tht intro. will get my half up of the set in a few days

Why did this have to be reposted?

Great set mind you.

because someone deleted it because he changed it to say amateur dj and i changed it back to professional and he warned me if i did that he would remove the set so phil put it back up for me, lovely chap

On 06-09-2010 10:57:34, C-J wrote:

because someone deleted it because he changed it to say amateur dj and i changed it back to professional and he warned me if i did that he would remove the set so phil put it back up for me, lovely chap

love u two

and enjoyed the set

All The Comments From The Deleted Set

On 06-09-2010 10:57:34, C-J wrote:

because someone deleted it because he changed it to say amateur dj and i changed it back to professional and he warned me if i did that he would remove the set so phil put it back up for me, lovely chap

its quite funny TimTim spittin the dummy out & deleting your set.

so eh...TimTim... whats the rules for for a set to qualify at a professional set???

On 06-09-2010 17:58:02, Loony wrote:

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its quite funny TimTim spittin the dummy out & deleting your set.

so eh...TimTim... whats the rules for for a set to qualify at a professional set???

he seems to go around changing sets details very often this man needs stopping b4 he does summats stupid on his crazy power trip

Nice one Calum:)
just got this burnt to a cd for my workout:)
missed it on sat got in too late:P
always enjoy your sets mate cheeeers;)

These are the private messages i received from timtim regarding me being a pro dj or not, and regarding deleting the set i posted

First message

"changing ur own set to pro is not allowed when moderators call it amateur.

The rules of amateur/pro are not really clear, a club dj isn't really pro here on lsdb.

People like hhz, zany are pro

for any other questions see the FAQ

when the set gets changed again to pro then the set will be deleted"

Second message

"Another warning, changing the set again made me delete it.

the rules are clear for me, u are not pro (and not acting pro right now also)

If u add/change sets multiple times on the wrong way then ur account can be blocked on this site.

The rules are made by us (Admin/Moderators/Set Editors) look @ all ur other sets, all of them are Amateur, when someone of us says that u are not then ur not on this site"

Third message

"I'm not saying that ur not a pro dj/ or a good dj (listend to all of ur sets and think i enjoyed them all also)

Still we made the pro/amateur part so that people who go to party's like defqon1 could find the set really easily (instead of searching threw the entire database)

So that is why i don't think that u belong in that part, mabye u will in some time

Beeing a pro/amateur on this website is really about having bookings on the right party's and loads of released"

To be honest I dont really understand how I am not not a pro dj but if timtim says so then it must be right

I would also point out that in the rules of this sight it says nothing about moderators deciding wether a dj is a pro or amateur, and that there is also no rules that say he can delete my set or block me for changing the set back.

And thanks ersknck2009 glad you like what i do

Also forgot to say ersknck2009 I was on last in the wee room after Thera, I was b2b with 5am, this is my half of the set is half is hard house and will be posted shortly, whats your actual name btw?

Mate jist tae tell ya there are few rules that get regularly enforced on this site, it all comes doon tae the mood of the mod... & even after the time for a change fourm topic where everything was supposed tae change... fuck all has changed... no surprise there

timtim even claimed wavolizer wasnt pro last week

On 06-09-2010 19:49:19, lawless29 wrote:

timtim even claimed wavolizer wasnt pro last week

So what timtim means is that if you haven't played for Q-Dance your not a pro.... hahahaha

On 06-09-2010 19:49:19, lawless29 wrote:

timtim even claimed wavolizer wasnt pro last week

that is completely rediculous, he basically said to me if you havent played for qdance your not a pro loony, what a warped way of thinking

Gotta say I don't fully agree lads. I would claim the site has changed after the 'time for change' topic but the rules are being enforced so severly its becoming ridiculous.

The pro amatuer discussion is a tiring one cause there is a question mark to a lot of dj's status. But for most I think its quite easy. If the dj is well renound and makes a living from music then he's pro, if its a club dj that plays within his own city or surrounding area and doesn't have much else on the C.V in terms of producing dj-ing then its amatuer.

Like I said with a lot of artists you really can't tell cause who is a member of this site to decide how well known a DJ is?

On 06-09-2010 21:49:10, djdesudo wrote:

The pro amatuer discussion is a tiring one cause there is a question mark to a lot of dj's status. But for most I think its quite easy. If the dj is well renound and makes a living from music then he's pro, if its a club dj that plays within his own city or surrounding area and doesn't have much else on the C.V in terms of producing dj-ing then its amatuer.

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I disagree with that, I would say if you play in clubs and entertain people and are booked for established nights that make money from ticket sales, have a following etc then you would be classed as professional. An amateur to me would be a bedroom dj who hasnt been booked to play out yet. If by the standards that are set by this website for being a professional were correct that would class dj's such as DJ Tone, Mark Doc, Sam Jones, Rob Da Rhythm and others (these are the first people popping into my head) would be classed as amateurs, even though they have played at huge events because they havent produced a lot of tracks and some (if not all) dont make a living from their music, but all would be classed as big dj's (in the uk anyway).

Edited by C-J on 06-09-2010 22:27

I know exactly where your coming from.

I think the whole point of the PRO section though is for people just to pick up sets of famous DJ's. I dont think you need to have productions either to be classed as PRO. I think i probably explained myself badly before. I would definitely say the dj's you've said there would go down as PRO.

Its a tricky debate like, no two ways about that. But when i think abotu what this site has got the two variations of pro and amatuer for there is a lot of dj's that arent well known that do get very regular gigs in decent venues that i still wouldnt post as pro purely because most people that use the site will never have heard of them and would feel their haven of top dj's is being littered with non pro's that they dont wanna hear.

A lot of people like Pithune and that disagree strongly and totally think they should be in Pro but at the end of the day if they were listed their it would still be a case of the people that use it ignoring their mixes cause they havent heard of them. I'd be quite happy to be listed in ametuer for eternity purely because if they wanna just sift through famous peoples mixes and not try out somethign with a nice tracklist then fuck 'em. Dont care if they listen to my mix or not.

Where on the set does it say wether it is pro or amateur and how do you search that by the way cos i can only see it when i am posting the mix.

I think if people want to here a zany mix or a tatanka mix or something they will search for that, or they will know its going to be there after a big event anyways, i just think its really sad that someone would go to the legnths of deleting a set i posted to share with other people just because they have a different view from me. However I can see where your coming from where people want to look for sets by pro's.

Did you enjoy infexious by the way? Did you give Al a demo on the door or ask if he got your email?

See the top right of the site, there is a wee link to just PRO sets. A few people who only wanna hear event mixes or big radio mixes use it.

Thought it was excellent, first time i've been to Soundhaus, was expecting it to be a lot bigger but tbh i liked how much more intimate the gig was cause of the size.

I didnt recognise Al Twisted so i didnt bother saying, plus i dont know if you noticed but i was drenched in my own sweat, must have looked like i had gubbed a handfull of pills before i got in. Didnt even think to ask though cause im not staying in Glasgow anymore and i should be getting regular gigs in a new club thats opened up in Inverness by the end of this month. Looks like i'll be playing most styles as well which is shit hot cause they always do themed nights.

Yeah its small but its a top atmosphere and its always a quality crowd

Fair doos mate you should have got me to introduce you to him, even if your still staying up inverness way im sure you would come down and play at it if he liked your mix

Thats good man what club is it? Will be good to play a lot of different styles out aswell