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Bartoch @ Musiketa Podcast 20

Hardcore

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Tracklist

1. Tha Playah - Clockwork
2. Tommyknocker ft. Ian K - Scream
3. DJ D - Punani (2011 Edit)
4. Amnesys - Raw Generation
5. Negative A - Blood On My Hands
6. Tieum & Partyraiser ft. MC Da Hustla - The Empire Strikes Back (Hellbound Anthem 2010)
7. Bartoch - Stupid People
8. Tommyknocker - Nocturnal Rituals (Tieum Remix)
9. Bartoch - Californian Girl
10. Negative A & Counterfeit - Ritual Killing
11. Bartoch - Magician Dancing
12. EST - Darkfallus
13. OGM909 - Fucking Bitch (Bartoch Remix)
14. Subversion ft. System 3 - Trouble Makers (Bartoch Remix)
15. Dr. Z-Vago - Flying High (E-Noid Remix)
16. Tha Playah - Walking The Line
17. E-Noid - Torture
18. Angerfist & Tieum - Just Know
19. Neophyte & Tha Playah - Trasher
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greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
Good TL but only Hardcore..
javi_centralero -
Tracks of Negative A, EST, E-Noid, Bartoch and Counterfeit are DARKCORE and INDUSTRIAL... the rest are Hardcore.
javi_centralero -
Why do you have changed the styles?
greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
On 14-09-2011 18:03:53, javi_centralero wrote:

Tracks of Negative A, EST, E-Noid, Bartoch and Counterfeit are DARKCORE and INDUSTRIAL... the rest are Hardcore.


:no:

On 14-09-2011 18:04:57, javi_centralero wrote:

Why do you have changed the styles?


Because it's only HARDCORE.
Edited by greg4850 on 14-09-2011 18:06
javi_centralero -
E-Noid is commercial Darkcore... the rest are same, negative a produce commercial industrial... Bartoch produce darkcore kicks, etc...
Knomo -
Why? Because fuck you, thats why
On 14-09-2011 18:03:53, javi_centralero wrote:

Tracks of Negative A, EST, E-Noid, Bartoch and Counterfeit are DARKCORE and INDUSTRIAL... the rest are Hardcore.


:no:
javi_centralero -
The first style is Hardcore, but the extre genre are darkcore and industrial (commercial tracks into this styles). More people can say if this is certain.
greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
On 14-09-2011 18:06:42, javi_centralero wrote:

E-Noid is commercial Darkcore... the rest are same, negative a produce commercial industrial... Bartoch produce darkcore kicks, etc...


E-Noid is just a harder (sometimes lower) alias from Dione.
Negative A is pure Hardcore, some tracks with Tymon are kinda Inustrial yes but it stays Hardcore.
Bartoch is like Partyraiser, faster Hardcore.
javi_centralero -
then, E-Noid and Dione are the same?, Negative A and Angerfist same?... I don't understand you. E-Noid produce darkcore melodies (dark tunes), kicks same; Negative A in his tracks he put industrial sounds, are commercial tracks into Industrial, Bartoch same but it Darkcore, the kicks of Bartoch tracks are tipics of darkcore, very hard.
javi_centralero -
They are producers that put industrial and darkcore sounds in his tracks, are commercials into this style. I could say that, for example, Negative A produce Hardcore with industrial sounds, Bartoch introduce darkcore kicks; therefore, extre genre would not be this styles?
greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
On 14-09-2011 18:11:33, javi_centralero wrote:

then, E-Noid and Dione are the same?


:yes:

On 14-09-2011 18:11:33, javi_centralero wrote:

Negative A and Angerfist same?


:no: :o

On 14-09-2011 18:11:33, javi_centralero wrote:

I don't understand you. E-Noid produce darkcore melodies (dark tunes), kicks same; Negative A in his tracks he put industrial sounds, are commercial tracks into Industrial, Bartoch same but it Darkcore, the kicks of Bartoch tracks are tipics of darkcore, very hard.


Darkcore doesn't mean harder, most of Darkcore tracks are slower than Hardcore..
Negative A is just a commercial faster Hardcore producer with some Industrial kicks yes but it doesn't make the track Industrial.
And for Bartoch, like I said it's the same than Partyraiser & Tieum, fast & brutal Hardcore.
greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
It's not because they put some harder or darker kicks etc that they produce Darkcore or Industrial ;)
Mrunterwijst -
On 14-09-2011 18:11:33, javi_centralero wrote:

then, E-Noid and Dione are the same?, Negative A and Angerfist same?


Partyraiser and Endymion/Evil Activities are the same? No, but it is both mainstream... But it is more something you have to decide yourself. It someone else says it is mainstream, you don't have to think it is. Negative A and Tieum are the ones who are between Industrail/Darkcore/Mainstream, in my opinion. I call Negative A mainstream, because the real obvious mainstream sucks.
javi_centralero -
Is that this producers, as put industrial/darkcore and hardcore sound in his tracks, then they produce hardcore & industrial/darkcore, for example E-Noid, his melodies are clearly darkcore, very dark tunes. Therefore I had put Hardcore as first style, and Industrial/Darkcore as extra genre, because there are some tracks that are commercial industrial and darkcore, nothing more ;)
javi_centralero -
Are tracks that are few commercial in mainstream hardcore and very commercial in industrial and darkcore, are tracks that have sounds of both styles, I think this :)
greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
Whatever.. I give up.

My last words are : This set is only Hardcore !
And harder & darker doesn't mean Darkcore, Darkcore is most of time slower than Hardcore.
Edited by greg4850 on 14-09-2011 18:28
Knomo -
Why? Because fuck you, thats why
Darkcore & Industrial are both slower than this 'faster' hardcore..
javi_centralero -
Then Greg, you say me that E-NOID is not Darkcore? :o , he works in DNA tracks!, darkcore sounds ;) ... Negative A introduce many sound in his tracks, tipic squeaks of Industrial... I don't know how I can explain it you yet :')

There are different types of Industrial (not only have to be very slow), because the base of style is to have many squeaks, without tune, etc... you can say me that Negative A produce commercial industrial, but is INDUSTRIAL!!!... in the same way, Endymion produce very commercial hardcore mainstream, but is hardcore!!
Edited by javi_centralero on 14-09-2011 18:41
javi_centralero -
On 14-09-2011 18:36:39, Knomo wrote:

Darkcore & Industrial are both slower than this 'faster' hardcore..


If the most tracks of this liveset, are hardcore... but some tracks, have many tipical sounds of industrial and darkcore. Also, E-Noid is a important producer of DNA, a darkcore label.
greg4850 -
Fear.FM Resident DJ
DNA isn't a Darkcore label man..

Common dude, you're a nice guy but accept it, this set is only HARDCORE.

Industrial = The Outside Agencey, Rude Awakening, N-Vitral, Peaky Pounder etc..
Darkcore = Manu Le Malin, Ybrid etc..

This is only FASTER, HARDER & BRUTAL HARDCORE !!!
Edited by greg4850 on 14-09-2011 19:49
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