14-11-'09 Trance Generators @ History Of Hardstyle (2000-2002)

The set stays on tag 'EHS'

It's a mix from hardtrance and hardstyle so EHS is the perfect tag
We count hardstyle for EHS when it's hardstyle untill the period of dec 2005.

The facts and menings about the existence of early hardstyle has nothing to do with discogs (where everyone can add what they like) or this liveset so this discussion is stopped. Else the set goes on a lock.

On 18-11-2009 18:19:05, Jro_ wrote:

The set stays on tag 'EHS'

It's a mix from hardtrance and hardstyle so EHS is the perfect tag
We count hardstyle for EHS when it's music 'till the beginning of 2006.

The facts and menings about the existence of early hardstyle has nothing to do with discogs (where everyone can add what they like) or this liveset so this discussion is stopped. Else the set goes on a lock.

Yeah but its mostly Hard Trance, & i'm not going with Discogs.

if it was 3/4 Hardstyle then 1/4 Hardcore it would stay in Hardstyle

if it was 3/4 Trance 1/4 Hard Trance it would stay in Trance

but its 3/4 Hard Trance 1/4 Early Hardstyle but it goes in Early Hardstyle???

This is mostly no trance, it's a softer 'hardstyle' style like the trance generators still use these days.

'Early' indicates a different style then today's, from a certain period, ago

On 18-11-2009 18:30:15, Jro_ wrote:

This is mostly no trance, it's a softer 'hardstyle' style like the trance generators still use these days.

Back then it was & still is Hard Trance. Scot Project ffs, he only made Hard Trance tracks back then... from about 1996 till 2006 then he went (Hard)tech trance

the only Hardstyle on it is

08. Analogic Disturbance - The Second Chase Ep (Hunting 1)
10. Julian DJ & Davide Sonar - Techno Noise (Frequency Mix)

On 18-11-2009 18:42:32, OzStyle wrote:

Softer Hardstyle hahahahahahahahahahaha a new genre is born

yeh best lock the thread coz all your comebacks are getting worse by the minute

It's just Trance and Hardstyle dude I don't name any genre's and I don't like the names Early, Hardtrance and Nu-Style.

Like you foreign would know

On 18-11-2009 18:44:50, Jro_ wrote:

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It's just Trance and Hardstyle dude I don't name any genre's and I don't like the names Early, Hardtrance and Nu-Style.

Like you foreign would know

hahaha so because you have dutch blood you know all about it...

but wait... all those Hard Trance producers aren't dutch

On 18-11-2009 18:44:50, Jro_ wrote:

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It's just Trance and Hardstyle dude I don't name any genre's and I don't like the names Early, Hardtrance and Nu-Style.

Like you foreign would know

Hardtrance is absoluut een genre van zichzelf!

On 18-11-2009 18:50:04, Pithune wrote:

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Hardtrance is absoluut een genre van zichzelf!

Early is ook een genre 'geworden' sjap
Nu-Style wordt er ook wel een.
Zet een softere kick onder hardstyle en je krijgt Softstyle

Trance blijft Trance, Hardstyle blijft Hardstyle en Hardcore blijft Hardcore. Al die subcategoriën mag je afschieten

On 18-11-2009 19:13:01, OzStyle wrote:

PreOldSkoolEarlyHardcore

Dinosaur Hardcore

wtf

Hardstyle found his origins from that german hard-trance, with labels like Kai Tracid, Deep Mission, Faithfull Bass. So you can consider that as early early hardstyle.

I didn't tag the set as Hard-Trance because it's just far from the actual Hard-Trance

On 18-11-2009 19:21:28, OzStyle wrote:
the beats n sounds are very basic & well not very hard lol

Strange thing then, I find the songs from this period harder than the most of the nu-style. No dysneyland cheese or 'no-bass' kicks. But some raw sounds, some percussions and a true & phat reverse bass
The only harder thing in these days are maybe some intro-sounds which are def more aggressive (like in Noisecontrollers intros) IMO. I speak only about nu-style

On 18-11-2009 21:40:44, hostage wrote:

wtf

Hardstyle found his origins from that german hard-trance, with labels like Kai Tracid, Deep Mission, Faithfull Bass. So you can consider that as early early hardstyle.

I didn't tag the set as Hard-Trance because it's just far from the actual Hard-Trance

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Strange thing then, I find the songs from this period harder than the most of the nu-style. No dysneyland cheese or 'no-bass' kicks. But some raw sounds, some percussions and a true & phat reverse bass
The only harder thing in these days are maybe some intro-sounds which are def more aggressive (like in Noisecontrollers intros) IMO. I speak only about nu-style

+1 well said man
2000/2002 was the period of changes ... the moving from hardtrance to hardstyle ... and these tracks even if they are old contains some really hard elements that can still rock the place ... I really like this set ... it really represent that period ... but of course this is my point of view

On 18-11-2009 18:42:32, OzStyle wrote:ROFL I am getting musical lessons from people that were still sucking on their mothers titties when I was @ raves with Lenny Dee & Dyewitness

HAHAHAHAHA

I agree with Hostage

Nu-style stuff isn't really my thing tbh, more Italian hardstyle & reverse bass ( ) for me.

Like some hard trance - Mallorca Lee etc

lol its funny that all the guys with a foreign flag are talking about its not early hardstyle

ofcourse it has some hardtrance hardhouse influences but we called it hardstyle.

This was definitely the beginning of the hardstyle.

I love that time.

The Bridge in Meppen (germany) was my favourite disco at the time. Brilliant times.

On 20-11-2009 05:50:19, OzStyle wrote:

It's also funny only the Dutch & Italians call it EHS..

"ofcourse it has some hardtrance hardhouse influences but we called it hardstyle"

yeh so does all dance music so does that mean we change it all to Hardstyle?

When I was growing up there was like 3 genres, Hardcore, Industrial & Techno, so correct me if I am wrong I am sure all the new genres come from that as well, everything was just TECHNO back then really, music made by TECHNOLOGY is what TECHNO is, so there all sub genres off Techno

I'm sure cavemen used objects to make music, so there elements of Cavemen in all music as well so should it all be called EarlyCavemanStyle ?

HT is HT, HS is HS but your all experts hey, btw I sent Scot Project a message about this he replied by saying haha they call my music EHS do they bunch of fools, but hey what does one of the leading HT DJs of all time know, after all he has not made as many vinyls as you lot hey.

Hardstyle is about the DISTORTED sound but you should allready know this

what about house-music? has that style never reached australia?

and hardstyle is about distorted sound??!! there are so many tracks released in 2001 that are definitely hardstyle but not distorted (showtek - controller, for example)

Can we not bring Nationalities into discussions

the only thing i wanted to say is that the music that we know as Hardstyle nowadays had its origins from the time of this records.

it all started there

looks like a brilliant set, gonna listen to it in the train on my way home now
bet i gonna jizz my pants lol